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0 Rating Posted by: CoasterMac on 3/24/2003 4:24:00 PM

Wow, i dont know what happened, really. This was the first ride i went on this season, in fact i got the very first ride on in this season...in the front...parkside!!! but for some reason i wasnt as impressed as i was last season. still one of my favorites, but now id wait for Superman before i look at Batman.

ok batman is not at all a 9. especially if S:ROS in ur opoion is a 6. its way to short. true it was designed to be in a small space but cmon. way to short. theyre adding 4.3 acres to the warter park but couldnt put inb more room for this. its fun while ur on it but it doesnt last. floorlesses arent that common i dont think. i could only name 6 off the top of my head so dont feel bad if uve only ridden one. but, ive ridden two otheres, superman:krypton coaster at SFFT and Kraken at SWO and they are so much better tha this. makes batman look like a kiddy coaster.

ok, i understand where ur comin from here. i get that uv riden other, better, floorless coasters but for me this is one of my favorite rides..i do have to agree with u that it was a disappointment not to have it in the DC Heros section, but space is the word, right. i also think ur right about giving this ride more spcae, and more length... they have plenty of parking lot, and from what i understand theyre gettin more, so they couldnt spare some more of it for this ride. i mean is the parking lot ever full anyways? oh well, still love the ride.

Thi is a fantasticc ride. I will agree it isnt huge liek the rest. but it is a hell of alot more intence then the others. Medusa is like rideing on glase. this thing meals liek your in the middle of a fight in the matrix movies.. I mean is fast and hits you hard. they really designed this well. I could care less if its short. yous i expacted more from SF. but they did alot in a small space.

but they didnt need to. 4.3 acres of waterpark expansion and they couldnt make this any bigger. its great while your on it but u cant even enjoy it cuz its over so quick. if you ride kraken youll see the full potential of floorless coaster and realize that they failed. i wouldnt even have minded a clone of like superman krypton coaster. thats a great ride. this was just a dissapointment.

The thing is No one now were the 4.3 acres are. it may be in the only servinging trees in the park. their was a larg colecion of trees behind the main st and Rockvill midways. its abotu 4 acres. so I dont thing they expanded into the parkign lot exapt for the new changing rooms adn gift shop. So thier resant expansion isnt a very good argumant. yes they coudl have mad it a little longer. but as you can see its a fantastic ride when riden. you and yes I have been spoiled by the biger ones. if theis had bin the first like BTR was. it wouldnt be compared to the biger ones. also the park is really stressed for land. so a smaller coaster was a more appropriate choice. they are likly goign to have two walkways in tohte back. if they had mad it biget you would only have the one walkway under the bracks and that in the futer would become a big botle neck. it was smart to make it a little smaller then they could.

I think they did alot with the space they had. i mean the 4 whatever acres that they expanded on arent a good argument because just saying 4 acres doesnt mean anything unless u know where the 4 acres are! i mean if it is 4 acres of parking lot, vs. 4 acres of a tree grove, then yeah they could have taken out some more lot, but that isnt necessarily the case. i would have loved it if they could have lenghtened the ride...maybe even given it more elements...but if they couldnt they couldnt. so what we have now is what we got, an personally im happy with it. i mean technically it is called a floorless compact right? so if they expanded on it then it wouldnt be a compact, and it would be one less type of coaster in this world!

What i see is they added a mager ride in that area. and it needed it. the area back theri was. empty and pointless. the SLC isnt that good. the best ride they have IMO is Spider and they never have it runing. the rest of the area is lakign in anytihgn that puls. I like Double truble but alot of peaple dont. so that pulls me but not alot of thers. they ahve a parkign lot to pu in biger rides. this was a god start for future expantion

i like double trouble but for batman, once again on it its a great ride but its too quick. i dont even lkike the waterpark i mean if i took control of the park id trash the water park. i dont care where the 4 acres are. if they can build on them they can put a rid on them. if its behond rockville its fine, not like this ride has excellent theming anyway. nice entrance tho. it is short. they coulda made it bigger. if they had to expand into the parking lot more they couldve. they got that lot acroisas the street and that new land down the road. they coulda made it biiger. if it was the first of its kind your right it woulda been viewed differently cuz it woulda been the only place you can ride it and a prototype. but amazing ones have been built. true its good for the amount of space they used but i refuse to believe they were limited to that amount of space.

They are to a point. keep in mind the houses are right their and tey park had parkign lot in that area the you find the hole south end when this houses were built. they couldnt of built it in the parkign lot not unles it was indors. a recuest for 130 was acked for but turned down so the park tride for 117 and got permision for the ride you see now. another thing withthe wooded are. it is about 7-10 ft higher then the wal way so alot of clearign woudl have needed to be don. a liitle impractical. also remember the ground under the park, well, sucks. its soft and rides require a massive amount of resuporting. I woudlnt trash the water park because theirs no compitition for it. I would more it to the land down the street and have a seporate waterpark. this will give the park alot more ride space. I would expand rock vill and creat a Gotham city. in the water park area.

i would also do just as you said. so why couldnt they get 130ft? im not really following.

I would have the water park separte too, more space for rides and more themeing areas, cause this park need serious help with thememing. i think what he means is that they couldnt build it 130 ft. because of legal issues, those damn houses right next door probably complain...GO LIVE SOMEWHERE ELSE. u have the rest of the country to live in, get away from our theme parks if u dont like livin near em.

i know. faggots are always complainin and keepin parks from expandin cuz they dont want it. its gonna happen if you move next to an amusement park. dont want it then dont move there. i know it ouldnt fit but i woulda loved to see a superman krypton coaster clone.heres a pic:
http://www.rcdb.com/installationgallery605.htm?Picture=1
. i know its oo big but i loved this ride. and i dont mind clones if they are on opposite sides of the country.

good point, i mean it wouldnt hurt if they had one of those over here, but i dont think those freakin neighbors would like it!! plus that space thing again! besides, B&M has yet to make a clone of a floorless, lets keep it that way...unless Scream is a clone? whatever

i think scream is a clone of medusa

thats what i thought, so way to compete SFMM. i think CP has em this year eh?

i think CP always has it. i really think X is a great idea but not greay. TTD is gonna be good. they have 2 hypers!!! both of which prob beat out nitro. i dont know whether riddlers or mantis is better.

also B&M has cloned medusa for superman in warner bros movie world in spain

oops, thats right...well sort of, its not an exact clone, its got one different element, i forget which one it is but theres one difference i think. and ur right, CP does always have it. SFMM comes out with rides quick, not like they put tons of thought, time, and effort into their rides anymore...CP always does, with..i think...the exception of Wicked Twister, but from i understand that one is a great ride still.

well CP does a new ride like every other year right. thats pretty quick. i think MM does put thought in to an extent but the rides just can compete with CP. althouhg i dont think alot of thought was put into MF. its really only looks good cuz of its amazing first drop but the rest is pretty flat with a couple overbanked turns. i think they were just like "hey lets make the tallest full circuit coaster with a huge drop" and then after they made the drop they could care less bout the rest of the ride

ok, for starter when the houses were build their wasnt a park their .infact the park bought the land and turned it into parkign so they coudl expand the park. so alot of them didnt exactly move in next to a park. SFMM floorless os a Meduse elements clone with a deforent foot print. same ride deferant shap. WBMW B&M isne a clone. they it set up in the same fasion and has the same inversions thei is no brack run. just an air time hill with a shalow drop to slow it down.

ok so no exact clonmes but on all the medusa, scream and superman ones they are pretty damn close.

They use the same inversions normaly in the same order. the track layout is always changed.

yeah, thats how they can claim that they build a different one each time. they are close, but thats sixflags for ya! once they get a good idea, or they steal it from someone else, they make multiples and fill their parks up with rides. now i have to say that usually they are great rides, but thats still what SF does!

your absolutely right. SF isnt a fan of customs. look at B:TR. its everywhere. they also populated america with boomerang clones. the floorlesses have the same inversions in the same order in roughly the same speed and height. thats close enough to call a clone.

true, they over use rides. I hated the fact they took te SCooby doo dark ride design and made an exact clone of teh one that Parmount hade made. thou thats teh same ride as Ghost hunt at Compounce, just with Scooby doo characters added. they need to get more origanal.

like Deja vu, i mean yeah, its a great ride (from what iv heard i havent had the chance to go on one yet myself, but i will this summer, SFG baby!!!) but then they make 2 more and drop them in different parks in differnet parts of the country cause they think people are stupid and wont see the trend. oops, guess that didnt work according to plan eh!! some thugs from SF are probably reading this right now and goin "ok, we gotta take this kid out before he tells the world the paln." theres probably some black suits on their way to "talk" to me right now!! hehe but really, thats how they make their money, clones, duplicates, and multiples...not to mention mving rides from park to park, that really pisses me off!!

I dont like it either. Deja vu thou liiks liek a great ride. isnt worth it. the capacity is terable so the waite is long. I find tey have for a wile overused rides. I find they find teh cheapist way out of everything latly. On top of that they are wastign their time throughing rides int parks that dosnt need them. SFMM for example shoudl add flats every year for the next 10 years that way they acualy with have a desent park.

i dont like clones but theyre easy. i also am not a fan of just moving rides but i guess its not that bad cuz the park its moved to gets a new ride and the park its moved from will get a new ride in its place. its a win win situation. its also good for new parks like SFNO. they gettin jokers from SFFT which i didnt like but its a good startup ride.

In some cases it isnt. I really think they should add not subtract.

same here but like SFFT is inside a canypon. unless they drill caves inside the walls and build there they cant expand so removing jokers will be good and, SFNO will get a ride. SFNE got flashback, wasnt that vampire at SFKK or somethin. whats there now. prob a nice new ride.

yeah, i have to agree, i mean moving a ride, depending on the ride and where it is, can be completly beneficial to both parks. if one park is straped on space, and another park needs a great ride, then sure, transfer. but i mean look at parks some parks...i mean rake SFMM and SFoG for example. here are two parks that SF has just moved rides, in, out, in, out, in and out...some rides in each park used to be in the other park. moving a ride is fine, but like MRC said, "they should add not subtract", i mean just moving a ride to get a rating from one park to another is dumb, leave the ride wher eit is, if fanatics really want to ride it theyll go to the ride, dont bring the ride to them and take it away from its loyal lovers at its current home!! what if they moved SRoS someday? even id be mad cause that ride is still great and its right next dorr. i mena its a fun ride but i anit going half way across the country just to ride the thing!!!

but they retire the ride from a park when its old so S:ROS wouldnt be moved for sometime now and theyd put in a new one. i can always agree with replacing rides especially since after the new one is put in they usually jackup the price and theres still the same number of rides but sometimes the ride isnt all that good and they need the space like at SFFT. they are talkin bout a flyin coaster in jokers space. thatd be so much better so the removal is ok.

True somtimes its a good thing. sometimes it isnt. not always movign it is a good thein. I dont thing the people in CA are goign to like Texas Tonado as much as the people in texas did. I never found out what was put in place of Flasback. their are no fan sides.

no fan side? i dunno. why dont u think the ppl in CA will like Texas tornado. i think it looks like an awesome ride. the only major bad thing about moving rides is, what might happen to texas tornado, sometims they tone them down and that sux.

After talkign to poster like Toadday Im sceptical. thow its a fantastic ride they may wine because its old. or that they would have wanted somthign new.

well tehn theyre gay cuz itll be a great ride. tons of Gs. itll be new to the park.

I agree. They shoudl have brought it hear. instal it in Great Escape.

is that the park with comet and screamin demon?

yes it is. its a nice park. if you like Canobie, story land, lake compounce you would liek this park. its a small story time park that has grown to a biger park.

ive never been but somehow i have a brochure of it. looks nice. comet looks good.

Comets fantastic. its onthe top list on the main page of this site. runs nice and alot of fun. the parkis prity good and if you have a SF seasson pass its includid. so its worth a trid. downfall it the water park wasts alot of space in this park.

why is it included with a SF season pass?

i was lookin at pic of the rides on rcdb. steamin demon is the exact same thing as the old rocky point corkscrew coaster. id like to do the bobsled thing too cuz ive never done one of those.

It was a premeir park soits now a SF family park. actually their is talk of just making it a SF but I think its a bad idea. the bodsled is amazing the ride is always deforent. downfall they cant runit after 8 so get on it early.

why cant they? m,aybe ill convince my parent to go for a little northern park trip this summer. canobi, lake compounce, SFNE, Great Escape. maybe even get in funtown/splashtown. could always try for hershey and dorney too.

Im dying to go to Great Escape, iv seen that its included on the SF season pass so i wanna go. its only about an hour drive over the Mass. border right? bobsleds are the s**t man! seriously, iv been on two, and i really wanna add that one to my list! i also want to get down to Penn. and hit the parks there, but not this summer, too many other theme parks as it is! sorry, i know, u can never have too many theme parks right!, but i got car insurance to pay for!

why cant they, its a plastic trof and fairly loud. so the city wount let them run it at night. its a nice park still has alot of the older fairy tail land atractions liek a jungle walk through, an Alice in wonderland walk through, swan boat ride, and the story town train, then they have 6 coasters, a good solection os flats. it a really nice park. I would welcome more rides but I dont want to se SF Brand it.

you dont want to see the SF name on it or you dont want the poor maintenence of rides that comes with the SF name

All of the above. alo the city has put restriction on many of the aractions. one one of the oricanal fairy town atractions can be removed. and thats the mini villege. also managment stated if they do become a SF they wont get WB of DC characters so I dont see it haponing.

yea prob not.

I would love to see them out rides in thw. but SF tends to only give rides to the SF propertys and forget the rest. they realy shoudl sell the park to anothe rcompany of somone else that will take car of it.

wait, isnt it gettin a coaster this year.

Yes. but their are a couple things their you likly dont know. its used not new. so its a coaster SF had and had to remove sfom were it was being storyed. it had to go somewere. htey removed two rides to put it in. A ghost rain ride aroung the area and a dark ride.

well what kinda coaster is it?

Its the Mine train thats been siting in storage on the old Indeana park. it was origanaly from Opryland.

will it be open for the 2003 season. im thinkin of askin to take a trip there. i might be able to tie it in with relatives.

Yes it will. if you look at SFNE.com you can get a look at the construction.

mnot much has been done. they better work quick. on the construction note has any construction been goin on at SFNE with the waterpark. i looked to see if maybe they updated the map for the 2003 season and it hasnt been done yet.

They have wellmore then a month before the coaster opens once the cround work is done the rest will go up quickly.

yes it seems like coaster with SF go up quickly. so now what about my other question on SFNE. know anything bout that?

I havnt heard of saw a thing on the constructin. but then also they have a littel more then two months before it opens and water ride go up quickly. als the snow is lily holdign them up. I know thats part of the problem at GE.

Well i fgure water rides can go up easy but what about the wave pool. that has to be dug out and cemetned and pumps have to put in as well as wave generators. i would think thatd take a while.

Try dinign out inthe snow. not to hard but. they cant sment it unless its wrm. same with painting. thts why the corkscew will likly not be repaointed opening day.

i hate snow but yea thats why i was wonderin what the construction is like. it woua been nice to see some pics come back from ppl who go on aopening day.

I wont go to Great escap/ but I will be theri on opening day. I will brign my camera. Ill be happy to tell ya but Im low on film and spending the last of my money of the pas and ticket for canobies openign day. so i will be very carfull on what I take photos of.

all i want to know is the construction progress of the waterpark. the pics would be nice but dont waste film if you are limited.

Im goign Openign day. I well tack a look and see what I can see.

ok. let me know. im sure u can see from superman.

I would be hopign for the Ferris wheel thow I dont like it its closer.

thats if its even open.

verry true. but its the only good use for the ride.

hey some ppl enjoy ferris wheels. they are relaxin and give a nice view of the park

ya but this one isnt any better then one half its size. they woudl be better off replacign it with a more effectiant and slighly smaller modle. why it woudl take up less space.

i like the gondolas tho better than normal ferris wheel cars.

Most ferris wheels use the gondlas. but this oen is just overly big. it dosnt work well, its slow, and the view isnt that good.

i remember a good view. im fine iwth colossus. its a classic to me.

its practickly new and is the only ride to be shut down for long periods of time. and they have shut it down at least once a year. they need somthign more reliable. it isnt worth keepign it. also a new wheel woudl likly be a little smaller and you take up far less space so you now have room for another ride.

ok when i first first went to Riverside, when i was about 8, i rode a huge ferris wheel. i remember it very well. it was huge with gondolas and it was called colossus. it cant be new.

Its farly new. it was the last thing River side put in. so around 96 of so. they had a smaller gondola that worked verry well bofore that. and also had a carnival modle. they ran both.

was one named colossus?

THe big one was ust Faris wheel. the smaller one was just the wheel. they had it for about a year or so after getign the biger one.

i knoiw whatever i rode was called colossus

well in 96 you were probubly 8 so you probubly rode it the first year it went in. its not as much th ehight that anoys me its the space it taks up.

true. but look at the space mind eraser and poland spring plunge take up. hell look at how much room the waterpark takes up. they cant remove every ride that takes up too much space even if it does really suck.

The ride has have numeras problems. every tie I turn around this thing is brackig down. the big questin is it worthe th emoney to keep it up. their are more reliable wheels outther and many take up less space. yes if I personaly got one I woudl get somthign a little smaller jsut becaouse its not wothe the extra roon it tats up. I woudl also remove the Scky coaster install the new one ther . you have now mad up the extra hight lost. istal beter upcharges to make up for the skycoaster removal.

dont remove the skycoaster. i love that. its so much fun. never remove a great attraction like skycoaster for a ferris wheel.

I would install better up chard atraction. thery is a company that make a sky coaster that tale up verry littel space. anythig elsi I woudl bet a new one because they tack up far less space.

but where would you put it with a wheel in the skycoaster space?

wel theris two places/ ou could pu it over Blivard river. actualu the new style can be instaled on the side of oen of the midways. actualy if I have th echoise I woud instal a sky scraper and a sling shot insted, it woudl be the same amount of money. also you both take up far less room. thou the best thing it your geting revinue off of two atractions. that from what yI have been able to find out is alot more populare.

the sling shot would be cool but i still wouldnt put the wheel there. could they possibly fit one in the wooded area between crackaxle canyon and north end behind the flume

I thing you mean behind the shoot-the-Chut. but no ther isnt any room. actually their isnt a wooded area. wy I woudl put it their, it is built up so you car creat the impresion of hight without the hight. th eky coaster arnt that good. I had started a post once of what woudl you pay and how often woudl you ride. the sky coaster got the worst responce. beign they didnt want to bay more then $15.00 fo rit and then you may ride one a year maybe twice. many said they never ride it. the other tow got aroung 10-15 dollers but they woudl ride it 3-6 times a year. so it would make far more money. the big problem is they take up too mauch space. you could fit an SLD or most of a BTR clone it its place. which do you thing will dray more people.

well if they put a BTR clone id be happy but dont remove it for a wheel. ive ridden the skycoaster and i loved it.

the thing is most people dont. and it takes up alot of space. i woudl eventualy put a few more rides up their but I woudl start with the wheel.

Im also verry suprised you actualy said you wouldnt mind a BTR clone. you hate clones.

i say if u really want to trash colossus but put the wheel in the same place. put somethin better up there. why i wouldnt mind a BTR clone, whiel i hate clones i think SFNE needs a GOOD inverted coaster so if they removed skycoaster there and put one in id be happy. sure id be happier if it was a custom but i wouldnt mind especially if a BTR clone is the only one they could fit in that space retaining the amount of inversions and stuff.

Actually you could build a little more in you build over the water ride. Teh intire reason for putingit their is to give it more hight without actually buying a biger wheel. colossus is way to big and is always braging down. the only othe rgood space might be over by the spider. move it and install the wheel their. but sky coasters arnt that populare and arnt worth the space.

okay so put the wheel near the spider. it doesnt have to be as tall. put rides *cough*coaster*cough* in the skycoaster area. dont build over blizzard rivber tho since itd take away from that ride.

Not is you co with an Aplingist like theme. maypy a long swooping tunnel down the side of the ride.

AH. thats an idea. a nic B&M invert themed like alpengeist that goes through the skycoaster area and then along blizzard river. i bet itd be cool when they have the mist running.

They woudl need that way both ride sonly add to the othe rone and dont detract.

thatd be so cool, call up six flags. we have an idea thats really good lol.

I really good idea they woudl pass of as Fantisy.

what?

mrc..Please, read over youre post before you send it...Im going to guess you were trying to say.."A really good idea would...actualy no..I dont have a clue. (P.S. Fantasy)*

Im sorry, I just find it hard to believe youre in college..

You were still able to find it out. but to the main subject. Batman good coaster, short, lacking themeing, and SF is both good and bad.

actually i couldnt figure it out. what did u mean by "I really good idea they woudl pass of as Fantisy."?

I couldnt figure it out either, Honestly I shouldnt even have to read a sentance and then try to figure it out like its a puzzle..

yes that is what I was tryign to say RAM.

are you sayine that if you pitched the idea to SF even though its good theyd pass it off as sometin thats never gonna happen.

Basicly ya. Teh owner of Premier their for teh owner of SF id a reall B1tch. she wants things her way or no way at all. so geting them to listn to me in the first place woudl be hard. in the NEAPPA comperanceds she rarly let anybody talk.

well that sucks. management that doesnt listen to ideas. thats really gonna make the parks good.

Well look at what the parks have been doign ove rthe last few years.

adding good coasters

they addid oen really good coaster. Black widow was just as fun as Flashback, and less cloned. they have no othe rsuper coaster exept BDK adn well I seam to be the only person with no comlaint on it so is that a good or bad addition? they havnt done crap for this park. the SF name pulled in people of the first couple years. Batman pulled in alittel but their atendance has been declining.

umm they built superman, thats a great addition that has been built in the last few years. Im not sayin BDK is a bad addition cuz any addition is good but i believe the coaster could be better. but SF lately has been building great coasters nationwude.

two, tha is what i said. other then that they havn been adign anythign good. this water park expantion i a waist. and the Cyclone has been killed.

"they addid oen really good coaster" then you started talkin bout BDK so i thought u were referring to BDK with that statement. I wouldnt say cyclones been killed cuz i still love riding it and its sill fun just not as good as it was. ok so SFNE hasnt beuilt anything great but look at the otha SF parks.

You mean SFOG, SFGAdv, SFDL, etc. they all have been doign more with the park. the bigist problem with they dont have alot of room to do anything big. especialy now that they expanded the water park.

all SF parks over the last few years have added a great coaster (nitro, Superman Krypton coaster,Titan) but yes, with the expansion of the waterpark itll be hard to put in n e thing major.

most people now that. so they are gogn will get an inpoulse coaster. well I havent herd alot of great things about them. they dont need alot of room. but tey arent superly exitign. also the reridership is farly low.

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