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 Review of Flyer @ Knoebels
3 Rating Posted by: hrrytraver on 8/5/2005 10:14:00 AM
certain characteristics really endear a ride to me. they are as follows: 1-chaotic, no two rides the same 2-sense of speed, flying 3-bizarre/unique mechanical features 4-interesting concept, execution 5-impression that you are going to crash into objects on or near the ride 6-wierd ride ops 7-ride experience more impressive than appears from the ground 8-use of trees. not many rides can hit on all of these points, but im happy to say the knoebels flyer nails each one splendidly! now allow me to address each of my 8 points as regards the flyer. 1-flyer is a model par excellence of a chaotic system. wind, quirks in the motors revolutions, the subtlest movements of your wrist on the "rudder", small shifts in body weight could all cause any particular ride on flyer to go nuts in little stochastic blasts. i love how when you are about to snap you kind of just go into a dead spot, like youre not moving but everybody else is, then suddenly....pop! 2-flyer doesnt go terribly fast, but it doesnt need to, because it is in a tight space so as you go bouncing through your turn the world whizzes past at a satisfying clip. 3-flyers engine may be its most interesting mechanical characteristic. basically a tractor engine. its loud and you can see about an inch thick layer of grease on the thing. had a break down? need to find some fancy shmancy amusement ride expert from germany to come and fix it? nah. just go get billy bob over the mountain to come down and get this ride purring like a kitten again. 4-flyer lets the individual determine how crazed his/her turn on the ride is. me personally, i wanted to make my flyer go berzerk and get scared off my head, and i succeeded at that aim and im thankful to the flyer for giving me that opportunity to determine my own fate. put simply, a very simple idea, that turns out to be one of the funnest/scariest rides ever. 5-this rides plot is surrounded by trees. every time you snap the cables you go wailing perpendicular to ground and straight towards one of many trees. the only thing that keeps you from becoming a mangled up version of a tree house is those seemingly dodgy cables holding your vehicle to the ride hub. this is a scary and totally rad sensation that makes everyone fully addicted to the ride. why do so many humans like to feel that they are about to get seriously maimed/killed? dont ask me, because im one of them. 6-the guy running the flyer during my couple of rides had fewer facial expressions than a boulder. i dont think this guy would crack a smile even if he was inside of a harem being lavished by bellydancers who were feeding him apricots and candied pistachios. he ran the ride a long-a**ed time each cycle too. awesome. 7-flyer is a crazy ride if you figure out how to make it go nuts. and nuts it will go for you, given the chance. what looks like a funky and quaint contraption from the ground turns out to be a formidable thrill. go figure. 8-see point 5.

Review Comments

adriahna on 8/5/2005 2:48:32 PM said:
Right On, Traver. Wonderful review - you definitely caught the Flyer at its best. I also love how youve dissected the overall experience with subsequent explanations - its just flat out perfect. Glad you had a good time - but then, its darned hard not to on this ride.
hrrytraver on 8/5/2005 6:41:25 PM said:
post 2 has a timberman quality to it. yes? oh, i forgot a very important feature to this ride that i find highly endearing..................ONE BUCK. an excellent purchase for one buck IMO. if i lived anywhere near knoebels, and i was feeling a little down in the dumps, id cruise over there with $2.80 in my pocket - 1 spin each on phoenix and flyer. thats cheaper than a pint of chunkey monkey and better for you, too.
Timberman on 8/5/2005 11:19:05 PM said:
You are correct, sir. In my eagerness to interject, I forgot to log on. What gave me away?
BobFunland on 8/5/2005 11:20:50 PM said:
I read that and knew it was you too. I would say the allusion to Action Park probably gave it away.
adriahna on 8/6/2005 7:48:38 PM said:
That Coney Island Zipper is on my short list for this year, Timberman - I havent been on it yet, and with the pending development, its basically now or never. Wish me luck - after my relatively jarring (albeit tame compared to Coney Island, Im certain) experience on the NJ State Fair Zipper, it might take some elbow grease to get me to actually get on the thing...
adriahna on 8/6/2005 7:49:59 PM said:
Oh, and by the way, Traver - that bio you have on your profile page is fantastic - Id like to spend an afternoon inside your subconscience...
hrrytraver on 8/6/2005 8:25:46 PM said:
why thank you, maam. i have enjoyed all of your writing on this site. i too am a huge fan of a raging and wheezing band organ.
adriahna on 8/6/2005 10:37:51 PM said:
Sounds good. Have you been reading about the B&B Carousell situation happening on Coney? The machine is up at auction on this Wednesday - theres a huge fight to keep it in Coney. The reason I ask is because it has one of the very few Bruder Elite Apollo band organs in existence - even though its in need of restoration and badly out of tune, its still one hell of an organ - you can tell that it has serious potential. Always happy to bump into a fellow band organ junkie - its a rare thing, to say the least.
hrrytraver on 8/6/2005 10:59:52 PM said:
adriahna- i havent heard about that specifically but i have heard about some of the wierd sh*t at CI going down. i must admit though, an out of tune and faulty band organ sounds like music to my ears. this past christmas here in baltimore there was a huge real steam caliope on a flat bed truck as the first float of the yearly hampden parade. this thing was a loud sunuvagun and horribly out of tune. all the kids looked so confused. the caliopist(?) was a big pissed off looking dude with a dirty sweatshirt on. he had a very stiff sense of rhythm and was militantly cranking through "we wish you a merry christmas". it truly sounded more like "ill kill you this very christmas" because it was so beligerently loud and out of tune. there were huge steam clouds billowing out of the pipes, definitely exaggerated because it was 40 or so degrees outside. it was a delicious and rare moment and i was in my own kind of heaven. P.S. im going to hit CI and the cyclone in a few weeks. cant wait!
adriahna on 8/7/2005 10:15:38 AM said:
If you want, drop me a line before you go to Coney - I still need to get my act in gear and get down there. Unfortunately, the B&B Carousell is closed to the public so we wont be able to listen to the organ, but theres clearly still plenty to check out.

Speaking of parades and calliopes, back in my hometown of Milford, OH (once a teeny farming town), we had a yearly Frontier Day parade, which always included a steam calliope on a flatbed trailer. It was like a harbinger of things to come in my life - I was so young that I didnt quite get what I was looking at or listening to, but I was just enthralled by it.
larrygator on 8/7/2005 11:38:04 AM said:
if there is a Coney Island meeting in the works let me know
adriahna on 8/7/2005 12:34:26 PM said:
We should definitely try to have a summer get-together - Coney seems like a great place to do it. Outside of a couple of weekends that are set aside for business events, Im free most of the time (I love working from home...). Check the Trip Reports forum - Ill go ahead and start up a get-together thread.
Timberman on 8/7/2005 6:05:25 PM said:
You guys are killing me with the Coney Island. Ive still got my 2004 Astroland Season Pass on the bulletin board in front of me. It was given to me because I showed up at 0430 one morning to test ride the TopSpin and comment on the Cyclone for Channel 7 News. You havent lived until youve ridden the Cyclone at daybreak. That was when I was 12 miles away. Now its more like 580 miles. That pass was one of the top six or seven best things to ever happen to me. It got me and up four "immediate family and/or guests" on the Cyclone all summer, as often as I wanted. I use to ride it during my lunch hour and introduced many of my co-workers to it. I could usually get in four or five rides and still have time to grab a couple of dogs at Nathans. Even though the pass has expired, it remains one of my most treasured possessions.
adriahna on 8/7/2005 7:45:18 PM said:
The Cyclone at daybreak... I love the smell of wood, grease and salt in the morning!
hrrytraver on 9/16/2007 2:24:53 PM said:
im just dropping in to say that i had two wonderful cycles on the flyers yesterday. the op kept giving me long deadpan stares, but i couldnt discern the message he was transmitting with those looks. i figured if it wasnt ok that i was snapping the hell out of my cables that he would communicate it to me somehow. when i got off the ride id give him a huge smile, but i could not penetrate his stony gaze. i must say, the older the ride op, the more i tend to like the ride and the whole experience. this place and beech bend seem to have the most lassez faire, older, wierd, and chillin ride ops.

after my first circuit yesterday, my heart was racing at a violent clip. it felt like id gotten my bucket up completely sideways, and i was caressing branches from almost every tree surrounding the ride. i felt several times that i was going to become the first rider of the flying turns by tearing off of the flyers frame and soaring the 15 feet or so into the tube of the FT.

this flyer kicks so much a$$!

adriahna on 9/16/2007 11:08:45 PM said:
Aaaaaahhhh... Knoebels. And that Flyer... gads, the whole place just brings a sigh to my lips...
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