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 Review of Ride of Steel @ Darien Lake
0 Rating Posted by: SaRa716 on 2/15/2003 8:26:00 PM
I LOVE this roller coaster! Weve been through so much,lol, like all the 100s of times I rode it, the gum and seat belt incidents etc. Were best friends, its the one ride ill always be able to count on for some major airtime and thrilling drops. Okay, I MITE seem a little obsessed, but u ride this amazing creature and tell me your not obsessed. Plus, Its the only roller coaster in NY that is worth the obsession. The lines are good, the wait is about 30-45 minutes tops. I give Superman an A++++++++++
Your fellow roller coaster enthusiast,

Review Comments

Red Rascal on 2/15/2003 9:16:52 PM said:
Why did you give ot a 5 if you love it so much?
mrceagle on 2/18/2003 1:10:36 AM said:
I think you forgot to change your rating.
Red Rascal on 2/23/2003 2:57:04 PM said:
I think shes using a scale of 1-5. 5 being the best.
SaRa716 on 2/26/2003 12:15:37 PM said:
oops, thanks, i forgot to rate it. Its a ten now
Red Rascal on 3/6/2003 4:17:03 PM said:
Also, why do you have TTD on your top ten? Its impossible to ride a coaster when its still under construction.
SaRa716 on 3/31/2003 8:56:19 AM said:
well, i know it will be in my top ten when i ride it so i put it up
CoasterMac on 3/31/2003 9:28:41 AM said:
Always good to think ahead on TTD! and ur right, it is the only coaster in NY worth the time it takes to drive to the park! i love this the best out of all three SRoSs, that includes the one at SFNE, and iv riden that one most of all! i would like to see SFDL get a new coaster though, i mean the park only has 7 reviewalbe rides on this website...come on SFDL, we want somethin new. Still love Superman though, they got a winner with this ride!!
MagnumMan on 4/16/2003 4:10:16 PM said:
SF isnt investing enough money in the park. Theyve left it out to burn, and that isnt right, as the park was doing conciderably well before they picked it up. The least SF can do is add another coaster. Its not like there isnt any space left in the park. Its almost ridiculous how much is still there because its been a while since the park has been owned by them and on most of SFs parks, there is a minimum amount of land left on the premises (But it does makes the park look very natural and beautiful, so I wouldnt want them to go overboard. Just a B&M SOMETHING would do and bring a lot to the park). Luckly, as a result, lines are great and service is very good, when its run by good people. As we all know, Six Flags is very inconsistant in that.
SaRa716 on 4/17/2003 12:45:34 PM said:
I know what you mean,but I heard that Darien Lake is getting another ride also called the superman ( theyre still keeping this one though) and itll be a rollercoaster thatll put you in a laying down position. But thats just hearsay. My friend said she heard that on a commercial, but I dont know if what she said is correct or not...But wouldnt it be cool if she is right?
SaRa716 on 4/17/2003 12:58:43 PM said:
Actually, nevermind, I just went on the sixflags website and it didnt say anything about a new ride.... Maybe it was a commercial for another Six Flags Theme Park. Oh well. Theres always next year.......
MagnumMan on 4/17/2003 4:22:58 PM said:
It could have been for the "Superman" flyer thats opening up at SF Great Adventure. Its not too far away. That would be exellent if one came to SF Darien Lake, but I dont think that SF is going to add another to the chain. Then again, SF does things like that.
CoasterMac on 5/1/2003 9:58:57 AM said:
Yeah, Superman Unltimate Filght is opening this season at SFGAdv, and at SFGA. both of these are nothing more than clones of S:UF at SFoG...which i will be riding this summer!!! i cant wait to visit SFoG, ill get to ride the original S:UF, and hopefully i can make it out to SFGAdv this summer too, so i can ride the clone.
mrceagle on 5/1/2003 2:04:20 PM said:
I cant agree with you that Superman is the only good coaster in NY. both the Cony Island Cyclone and the Comet os Great Escape are with a trip to ride them. about DL they do need to expand. set up a seporrate water park. that would give them all that space add rides. this is an easy park to turn into a destination becuase it whas a motel adn campground on site. and abotu the rides i will request that some of theri rides be added to the site. this will give you more to rate.
Red Rascal on 5/1/2003 3:06:07 PM said:
Lodge on the Lake at Darien Lake isnt a motel. Its a hotel. Hotel and motel are two different things.
mrceagle on 5/1/2003 4:29:23 PM said:
true. the Hotel dosent have the rooms directly facign the parkign lot so it isnt a motel. but are you geting me on teh destinatin part?
Red Rascal on 5/1/2003 5:55:41 PM said:
The hotel has rooms that directly face the parking lot. I stayed in one of those rooms on one of my trips to the park.
mrceagle on 5/1/2003 6:32:00 PM said:
who cars your misign the main point. with places to stay at the park. they shoudl work on turnign it into a destination. big enough that it may take more then one day to see everything. a water park seportate form the park . biger and better then anything in the area. this was the point.
Red Rascal on 5/1/2003 6:59:59 PM said:
It is the best in the area. The water park is fine just the way it is. The park is perfect, they just need to keep adding rides.
mrceagle on 5/1/2003 11:36:14 PM said:
Were? the water park takes up a larg chunk of the park are. not to mentin because of where they built it you have to walk through the thing to get into the park. Basicly I am talkign about makign it biger. somthign worth traviling to and staying over night to visit.
Red Rascal on 5/2/2003 3:29:10 PM said:
The water park doesnt take up that much space. It has very few water attractions in it. They just took out Cuda Falls and some other slide complex to build Shipwreck Falls last year. They just might make a new water park or renovate the old one.
MagnumMan on 5/2/2003 4:30:22 PM said:
They didnt take out Cuda Falls. SFDL took out Floodgate Falls which was this old, decrepid, sit-down slide. I dont think theyd ever demolish Cuda Falls unless there was absolutely no other way. Without it, the water park area is pretty much gone. EDIT: The ride is actually Cascade Canyon. Floodgate Falls is still there.
mrceagle on 5/2/2003 5:03:19 PM said:
hopfully they will just build another one next to the park. you can do alot more with a seperate water park then one built into the park. just think of the types of rides and coaster sthat could fit in the area now used for the water park
MagnumMan on 5/2/2003 5:07:37 PM said:
I know. Plus, the park is located near the front so those rides would definitly be a showpiece when people come in from the front gates.
mrceagle on 5/2/2003 5:16:49 PM said:
But back to my origanal statment thei woudl be a good park to turn into a destination.
MagnumMan on 5/2/2003 6:03:18 PM said:
Well it could be one naturally. Like just by adding more rides, which SF doesnt seem to be doing at all. We need a coaster. A MAJOR ONE. Anything big would turn this park into a popular destination, hopefully, automatically.
Red Rascal on 5/2/2003 6:35:58 PM said:
Other attractions, hotels, malls, and restaurants should open near the park, like across from it. The park is located in the middle of nowhere. If they open other things near the park more people will be attracted to the area.
mrceagle on 5/2/2003 11:56:15 PM said:
That was one of my reasons for seporatign the water park from the park. if they want to see both withthe larger sizes of both they woudl need a couple of days at least. if their is nothign in the area then they deed to seeabout expandign into a very large park.
MagnumMan on 5/4/2003 12:23:30 PM said:
Actually, I see why they havent really put any interest into the expansion, or maybe even movement, of their water park. NY is does not necessarily have water park weather except for SOMETIMES in the summer months. Thats why there is a total of only 3 (count em, 3) in the state. Also, like Big Red said, the park really is located in the middle of nowhere so something like a mall or a major hotel is not expected, and this is proven because the nearest hotel off the premises of SFDL is 5 mi. away!
mrceagle on 5/4/2003 2:29:03 PM said:
So remove the waer park. make up for it my addign a wwater caster. then expand that enitre area. make the park allot bigger ride wise. use the land you could have used for a water pak to make the park even biger. havign the losist place to stay would make people stay there. its a leagal Monopoly.
Red Rascal on 5/4/2003 9:08:04 PM said:
Until the park adds something major soon, Im not planning a trip any time in the near future.
bb_dg on 5/4/2003 9:47:23 PM said:
sorry if this seems random but are the lines for SRoS that short all the time... like say mid week in the beginning of july?
mrceagle on 5/4/2003 11:08:47 PM said:
i want to get out there. i havnt been to the park yet so It really interests me. The park looks nice and the area as well. thow they seem to not bother with this park as much as they should.
Red Rascal on 5/5/2003 4:08:53 PM said:
The lines for SRoS were shorter in the morning than later every time Ive been to the park.
MagnumMan on 5/5/2003 6:54:15 PM said:
Every time ive been to the park, the lines have been at least 15 minutes, as it is still, since its opening in 1999, the major atrraction. Im going to SFDL on the 31st with some friends, so I can tell you where SRoS stands as of now. BTW: They close the ride EXTREMELY early, so get all your rides in way before closing
MagnumMan on 5/5/2003 7:01:53 PM said:
I wonder why they close their major ride before anything else. Of anything, they should keep it open as long as possible...
Red Rascal on 5/5/2003 7:13:04 PM said:
Its probably because of the laser show.
MagnumMan on 5/5/2003 9:55:12 PM said:
But most of the other rides are open regardless. Are you saying that SF closing the big attraction so that all the people might go to the laser show?
mrceagle on 5/5/2003 11:47:10 PM said:
Isnt this ride the ferthist walk from teh Exit. Im shore it is and that is likly a reason. the rest of the park is easly monitered Superman is out of the way.
SaRa716 on 5/6/2003 8:48:19 AM said:
No...the furthest ride from the exit is the Viper and the Ranger, the SRoS is one of the closer rides toward the exit...but it IS in its own little section so I can see how it theyd close the section off to be able to monitor easier for the rest of the park.
Red Rascal on 5/6/2003 3:21:42 PM said:
The laser show is pretty good and many people go to see it. I think they close Preditor and Boomerang earlier also.
mrceagle on 5/6/2003 6:41:26 PM said:
where and on what do they show the laser show. is this jsut a laser show or is it a laser show with firworks.
MagnumMan on 5/6/2003 6:53:15 PM said:
Its a laser show which shocases movie tunes, popular music these days, and it even has a little bit of audience interaction too. Awesome! Dont expect anything different, though, if you go again. It never changes, except maybe slightly.
mrceagle on 5/6/2003 7:13:13 PM said:
Well I havnt been to the park. its nice to see a SF park havnign somthign extra like that. Im assuming they had it before SF. So where in the park do they have it?
Red Rascal on 5/6/2003 7:25:51 PM said:
Many parks have laser shows. This one is located across from Boomerang and features fireworks, lasers, and a show projected onto the huge screen. Its a simmilar type of thing to the one at CP.
MagnumMan on 5/6/2003 8:43:09 PM said:
They had it long before the park because a Six Flags addition. You can tell since its place is technically out of the parks boundries, near the RVPark and thats where most of the original park originated.
Red Rascal on 5/6/2003 9:06:43 PM said:
Darien Square is a ghost town. They need to add rides there to get more people to that area. The laser show is located there.
MagnumMan on 5/6/2003 9:49:08 PM said:
Its a great place to put a major coaster as there is much undeveloped land. WISH FOR A B&M...SOMETHING!
Red Rascal on 5/7/2003 7:20:19 AM said:
A B&M will always do a park well.
mrceagle on 5/7/2003 4:40:27 PM said:
How many rides are in that section?
MagnumMan on 5/7/2003 6:34:21 PM said:
Of course. B&Ms are the best thing a park could have within its gates, coaster-wise, in my opinion...To mrceagle: I can actually count the rides in that section. It includes Boomerang, Tin Lissies, the newly added Twister, and the SuperHero Speedway.
Red Rascal on 5/7/2003 7:57:05 PM said:
That beaver restaurant attracts many people there also.
MagnumMan on 5/7/2003 9:25:26 PM said:
Its ALWAYS busy. Ive always wanted to eat there. Its one of the better SFDL eateries.
mrceagle on 5/7/2003 10:06:57 PM said:
So it has two rides, one coaster and an upcharge atraction. jsut remove the speedway and that most of the room you need for a coaster. so their is alot of room in back of that area?
MagnumMan on 5/7/2003 10:51:49 PM said:
Not really. Behind it is part of the RVPark, but it doesnt matter since its a distance away. But on the side of the speedway there are three attractions that immediatly surround it, Twister on the left and the Batting Cages/Batman Thrill Spectacular Theater on the right and I mean its really tight if you look at the space, side-wise. Of course, like i said before, it might be possible to go back toward the RVPark since its a pretty good distance away (visible but not exactly close) but the coaster would then, after it goes out, have to make a sharp turn and come back the opposite way. I could imagine it being quite the interesting coaster. Its possible though in that space, and in a number of others too.
mrceagle on 5/7/2003 11:41:04 PM said:
Well insert a coaster in the back and a S&S tower system in place of the speedway.
Red Rascal on 5/8/2003 3:27:13 PM said:
Thats not going to happen. Its been rumored that a B&M will go there and have a Batman theme.
mrceagle on 5/8/2003 7:20:46 PM said:
But the S&S is still posible and it woudl be a good ride for the park. the coaster or a coaster needs to be added. really Dl should be geting another coaster before any other park in the area.
Red Rascal on 5/8/2003 7:30:58 PM said:
There isnt any other park in the area except for Martins Fantasy Island. They dont add because theres no competition.
MagnumMan on 5/8/2003 9:43:18 PM said:
Well actually, Canadas Wonerland is only 2 1/2 hrs. away. It should pose a little competition but I dont think MFI cares. They are striving for that family oriented theme, which the other parks do not depend on, so it has its own place. BTW: The S&S is a really important feature that SFDL needs. It will definitly get me into the park!...and if its a record breaker?!...that park will be going places within a matter of months or the following season.
mrceagle on 5/9/2003 2:45:36 AM said:
The problem is this park is out of the way from anywere. they need to do some sugnificant enhancments to attract all sorts of people to the park. they need to luar not compete. they have an intirely biger reason for needign expansion.
Red Rascal on 5/9/2003 3:39:38 PM said:
Even if its a record-breaking S&S combo, its not going to take the park anywhere. I dont hear anything anymore about S:ToP.
SaRa716 on 5/9/2003 9:40:33 PM said:
Martins fantasy island just got a new ride this year, its called nitro,its a copy Delerium at PKI. I actually think MFI ( Martins Fantasy Island )is better than SFDL, they have less lines and i dont know, i just think its funner.
mrceagle on 5/10/2003 12:57:32 AM said:
True an S&S tower by its self wont do it. makign it a rocord bracer or at least taller wouldnt urt. addign a few more flats at teh same time. a thrill ride and a family ride. a tower and two more ride woudl get soem peoples attentions. because its out of the way they shouel add attractins more often. fmaller flats and the acational upcharge. then in 3-4 years without question add a coaster. another thing this park shoudl do is remove Boomerand and Mind Eraser. repalce then with Custom rides. with rides you cant find anywhere else people are more likly to travil to the park.
Red Rascal on 5/10/2003 9:29:49 AM said:
Boomerang and Mind Eraser are pretty popular compared to the ones at WoA.
MagnumMan on 5/10/2003 1:55:41 PM said:
Well Id see why. Boomerang is probably the smoothest one Ive been on and thats out of ummm...3 I think (WoA, Jazzland/SF New Orleans and Darien Lakes). Its the opposite for Mind Eraser/Serial Thriller. WoAs is by far the smoothest. But thats another story. mrceagle, when you said "they need to lure not compete. they have an entirely bigger reason for needing expansion," were you talking about SFDL or Martins Fantasy Island?
MagnumMan on 5/10/2003 2:04:42 PM said:
Oh, no mrceagle, SFDL doesnt need anymore upcharge rides. They have 3 already! It doesnt add anything to the park at all. Nor do they need to demolish anything. The park is full of undeveloped land. Its almost ridiculous (You wouldnt think so by just being in the center of the park though. Same thing as SFNO). I dont necessarily think the park needs to add flats either. Thats all the park has! 5 roller coasters and a multitude of "carnival-style" flat rides. I see what you are saying about getting a custom though. BTW, Big Red: The reason S:ToP isnt getting too much publicity is because its completely irrelevant to focus on that one ride. Unlike when S:RoS opened and thats all that people flocked (and flock) to because that was all there was, SFOT has a bunch of other rides that get the same type of recognition.
Red Rascal on 5/10/2003 2:32:32 PM said:
Its true, they dont need anymore upcharge attractions. They have four of them plus miniature golf and paddle boats. The park needs a good Huss ride, like a frisbee.
MagnumMan on 5/10/2003 3:00:25 PM said:
Thats a good ride. Those frisbees are very popular nowadays. Fun too. But, like you said, that ride only wont make the park.
mrceagle on 5/10/2003 6:17:54 PM said:
I was more listign out rides, Magnum I was talkign aobut SFDL. nedign to Lure people to the park.
mrceagle on 5/10/2003 6:22:30 PM said:
abotu replacing. is they have only all of their coaster are custom they wil get more return visiters. right now Bommerange and Mind eraser are clones. that is nealy half their coasters being Clones. by replacign them with customs they people will have to go to that one park in orderto ride that coaster. withthose two rides they can be found within a short dintance of the park. so it they may be populare wile people are at the park. but they arnt going to make people want to go to the park. when I was talkign flats I was talking more uniquie, Frisbie, Lump, inverter, simelar things. rides people will want to travil to ride.
Red Rascal on 5/10/2003 6:38:33 PM said:
The majority of the GP doesnt know theyre clones and even if they did, they wouldnt care.
mrceagle on 5/10/2003 7:31:56 PM said:
bull! if a person has a park that has a Boomerange or an SLC. they can se that this other park has the same coaster. that isnt goign to make then wantto make a special trip to that other park. they need to offer deferant rides to make people want tocome to the park.
Red Rascal on 5/10/2003 7:34:27 PM said:
Most of the people that go to a park arent enthusiasts! They probably havent been to a park with the simmilar coaster.
mrceagle on 5/10/2003 9:12:41 PM said:
If theri not that big into parks they arnt going to travil to this park. they will go to a closer park. because this park is out of the way with little population around it. this park needs to creat somthign people want to travil to. and that woudl mean haing coaster other parks dont have.
Red Rascal on 5/11/2003 8:47:06 AM said:
Many locals visit this park and people that live in the area. SF knows what theyre doing with this park, just give them time.
MagnumMan on 5/11/2003 9:16:58 AM said:
I was going to add that in there, Big Red. Most of the people DONT know they are clones. The closest park with a replica of those two is 4 hours away, in another state (SFNE) or 6 hours away, in another country (PCW).
MagnumMan on 5/11/2003 9:22:39 AM said:
I see clearly what you are saying, mrceagle, but most people that want change are not looking for representation from the entire country. At least, Im not. I just want SF to pay more attention to what could be a star park. It might be off the beaten path, but it is the only REAL SF park in the state and, by far, the biggest of the 3 amusement parks in NY(The Great Escape, SeaBreeze, and SFDL- Excluding Coney Island). The park is between 3 metro. areas (Rochester, Buffalo, and Syracuse) and the people that live there support the park so it is in no way being abandoned, and in effect, not getting rides. Most people go at least 1 once a year, every year, including myself. Its Six Flags.
Red Rascal on 5/11/2003 9:39:01 AM said:
Red Bull? LOL.
MagnumMan on 5/11/2003 4:40:11 PM said:
Sorry. I must be guzzling too many energy drinks...
Red Rascal on 5/11/2003 7:14:44 PM said:
Are those things any good?
bb_dg on 5/11/2003 7:26:43 PM said:
lets try to stay on the topic of amusement parks...
mrceagle on 5/12/2003 12:19:25 AM said:
Mag - true SF wise the closist park with both is about 4 hours (SFNE). But their is a number of Close Boomerangs. two SF propertys near by have them. both La Ronde and Great Escape have Boomerangs.
Red Rascal on 5/13/2003 3:11:26 PM said:
The closest SF to DL is probably WoA. Its not that far away. It too has a boomerang.
mrceagle on 5/13/2003 4:30:14 PM said:
As you can see this coasters are overly common. SFDL needs coasters that cant be found anywere else.
MagnumMan on 5/13/2003 4:31:31 PM said:
Actually, its 7 hours away (from Syracuse) and about 5 from SFDL itself. Youd be surprised how far Ohio is from New York so yeah, WoA is by far the closest besides The Great Escape (I forgot they had a boomerang). That solves the Boomerang closeness but how many people do you think drove almost 5 almost 6 hours to SFWoA or visa-versa? Not too many. Also, even though thats a third of the coasters at the park, it doesnt matter. It doesnt add, nor take anything away from the park.
Red Rascal on 5/13/2003 4:43:14 PM said:
Mrceagle: every SF needs unique coasters, not just DL.
mrceagle on 5/14/2003 12:07:21 AM said:
Magnug you are wrone it dosn taek allot away from a park. are you goign to want to travil 6 or more hours to go to a park with 2 uniguie Coasters and a couple custom water rides. averythign else is commen. so that dose take away form the park. iven those who make the trip arnt liky to make a second.
mrceagle on 5/14/2003 12:08:57 AM said:
Big - your not getign the point. In not sayignthat all parks dont need custom rides. Im sayign because this park is so far out of the way formthe GP and Enthusiasts they shoudl do something. that Somthing is remove the clones and instal Custom rides. make this park wrth travilign to.
Red Rascal on 5/14/2003 3:17:59 PM said:
Its not far from the GP. Its not really far from anything.
MagnumMan on 5/14/2003 3:34:15 PM said:
Hes right. Like I said before, the park itself might be in the middle of nowhere, but its centrally located between two Metro. cities, Buffalo, Syracuse, and Rochester. BTW: No, if i had a closer park. Yes, if that was the only thing around. And thats my point. Within about a 4 hour radius (at least 3 hour) from each direction, SFDL is really the premier park, if not the only, so I dont think having a "shelf coaster" or two will take anything, public-wise, away from the park.
mrceagle on 5/14/2003 4:53:38 PM said:
true 30 minuts or so from Buffalo isnt that bad. thou 2 hours from Syracuse and 3 quorters to an hour to Rochester is a little more then most GP wil travil. NY has 19 million people livign in the state half of them are livign in NYC alown. this leaves verry few livign near this park. they need travilers to increas. they got 1,525,000 gusts to the park. its attendance is low on the companys parks lader. this is likly because the park hold litel apeale to turists who have seen most of the parks coasters before.
Red Rascal on 5/14/2003 6:41:00 PM said:
People live next to the park. Theres a town right outside the park.
mrceagle on 5/14/2003 10:22:54 PM said:
Red have you been or lived in new york. the town like this are small. they arent hevaly populated. the park as is is only geting 12.5% of the States population goin gto thepark. so with the few people tha tdo travil. thery only atracting about 10% of the states population. thats not a good percentage.
Red Rascal on 5/15/2003 3:26:05 PM said:
Have I been to NY? Well lets see. Ive been to DL. Thats in NY so yes I have been to NY. Technically this park isnt in the middle of nowhere.
mrceagle on 5/16/2003 12:11:08 AM said:
Compared to most parks it is, at least SF propertys. ond given their atendance they arnt that apeapling because they have a popention 6 million people that live within travilign distance to the park in NY alone. Questin is why arnt they going.
Red Rascal on 5/16/2003 3:24:37 PM said:
Many people dont even like rollercoasters.
MagnumMan on 5/16/2003 3:39:31 PM said:
Well what city do you concider SF Magic Mountain near or SF America? Both are about a 1 hour drive to and from the nearest large city, and both of them can be concidered flagship parks also.
MagnumMan on 5/16/2003 3:41:37 PM said:
Your right red. In fact, the only people you see there are teens and families that look like they want to die being in the park. Its sad but true. Except for the kids, there isnt too many people that prefer coasters in NY (Probably because it isnt heavily parked like, for example, California or Texas)
Red Rascal on 5/16/2003 4:05:50 PM said:
I wouldnt say SFA could be the flagship park.
MagnumMan on 5/16/2003 6:21:01 PM said:
Its not THE flagship. SFA is just one of the more popular ones along with SFGA, SFGAd, SFMM, and SFNE.
mrceagle on 5/16/2003 10:28:55 PM said:
Magnum - SFFT, MW, WoAdv, OG, and SFOT all bet a higher attendance then SFNE. SFAm si the third most popular park. you will also notice that oll 3 of the top 3 are with in a resanable travilign distance from a majer metropolitan area. not just a city.
mrceagle on 5/16/2003 10:33:37 PM said:
True red many people dont liek coasters. that is why many people don;t go to SF. because out side of coasters many parks dont offer anythng.
Red Rascal on 5/17/2003 7:36:21 AM said:
Thats not true. Every park has a special area for kids. Many also have water parks. Some even have animal exhibits. They offer much more than you can think.
MagnumMan on 5/17/2003 10:27:16 PM said:
You dont concider Bufalo a major metropolitan area? Cause if you arent sure, I can tell you it is. BTW: mrceagle, the real reason why people dont go to SF is management things: service, high prices, no shade etc. Some families could care less about the rides. They may not want to go themselves and are probably going for the children. Thats great but even so, the faults leave a gap of dissapointment regarless of the kids, you see?
mrceagle on 5/18/2003 1:10:13 AM said:
I see, yes most familtys are goign for the children. but liek red brought up all have kidie areas. well so dose every park. and like you said SF has high prices. true Bufalo is a big city but not a larg metro area. its a mediun size city. its a city liek Hartford, Ct its big but still not a mager city.
Red Rascal on 5/18/2003 1:44:02 PM said:
Buffalo is a major city. Its located right across from Niagra Canada. SF isnt the only tourist attraction there. Heres the population of Buffalo compared to Hartford in 90: Buffalo-328,123; Hartford-139,739. I consider a city with a professional sports team a large city.
mrceagle on 5/18/2003 11:00:19 PM said:
then if they are near a big city why is their atendance so low in comparison? you are sayign they have alot of people by the park so why arnt they geting rides. ahy havnt they got a coastr in 4 years.
Red Rascal on 5/19/2003 3:24:52 PM said:
NOT EVERYONE LIKES COASTERS! The people dont have to go if they dont want. Theyre not going to pay $30 just to walk around.
mrceagle on 5/19/2003 11:23:42 PM said:
No but if the park sported a train, boat ride, slower family rides, etc they might be more willign to. also if thery remove the water rides the admision price could be droped to 23-25 dollers. a more exeptable price.
Red Rascal on 5/20/2003 3:23:14 PM said:
Why would they remove the water rides? Slow family rides are found throughout the park.
MagnumMan on 5/20/2003 4:40:04 PM said:
SFDL is NEVER going to remove their water rides. They are a park landmark, as they are one of the oldest standing rides there, and very popular. In fact, I bet the park would LOSE attendance by doing that. So, demolishing the "water park" is actually being counterproductive.
MagnumMan on 5/20/2003 4:44:45 PM said:
BTW: mrceagle, you said earlier that most families are going for the children but they all have kiddie areas for them as a response to my statement about why "people dont go to SF." When I said that, I was talking about EVERYONE, not just kids. In fact, they are completely irrelevant as they cannot get there on their own. My post was more directed toward adults which feel like even the kids happiness wasnt worth going to the park.
mrceagle on 5/20/2003 10:09:46 PM said:
MAgnum I dought the water park Section is oen of the first things addid to the park. if it was why wasnt it built up around the water front. this water park is in the front of the park. also is a child is brought to a park the parent is payign full price to get in as well. fmily rides are more apealing in that case becase the garian doasn;t have to sit there just watching the child. Family rids are also more apealing to older patrons.
MagnumMan on 5/20/2003 10:53:20 PM said:
Yes it is. The Cascade Canyon water slide, which is DLs version of a lazy river was first built in 1982. The park opened as a campground in 1964 but orinigally started adding attractions in 1977. Thats only a 5 year difference. And its still standing and has never been moved. So yes, you could count that as being one of the first things added to the park. Also, remember, the park was a campground originally, so there was a lot of undeveloped space. In effect, things are usually spread out more. Thats why the water slides ended up in front (which, if you think about it, would actually be the back of the campground since it started where the RVs are now) of what is now SF Darien Lake. BTW: I got this information from SFDarienLake.com which is a huge, information-packed, fan site. I think they know their stuff pretty well and I wouldnt doubt their timeline.
MagnumMan on 5/20/2003 10:59:15 PM said:
So are you saying that Darien Lake needs more family rides? Cause there arent too many to go around that the park already doesnt have. All the necessities (Carousel, Log Flume, Rapids, Pirate Ship, Bumper Cars etc.) are already there now. Its just that when most children go to a park they are looking for action, not bonding. For example (and this is kind of mean but dont take it in the wrong way), I could care less what my mom does or goes while Im in the line for a coaster or thrill ride, which is something that my parents do not like. Yeah, of course, I would love to ride on something with my family but usually they just end up sitting down on a bench, in the hot sun, eating or resting their feet from walking.
Red Rascal on 5/21/2003 3:29:46 PM said:
Plus, they have Looney Toons Seaport.
mrceagle on 5/21/2003 7:38:57 PM said:
And once you are old enough to go on your one. they will loos 2 of the 3 peopel they once had. that is what i am talkign about. what dose your mother like to ride. rapids rides have hight requirments they are a water ride. some people prefer not to get wet. A carousel is good. so is th epirte ship. but they ned more. Cascade canyon you true reson for keepign the water park is gone. using your timeline it was removed for Shipwreck falls. andred I am not talkign kiddie rides. is their sea port is anythign like SFGAdv their are 2-3 family rides. adn the rest ae Kiddie rides.
MagnumMan on 5/21/2003 8:05:14 PM said:
No. FLOODGATE FAllS was removed for Shipwreck Falls. CASCADE CANYON (the first water slide) is still standing.
MagnumMan on 5/21/2003 8:10:10 PM said:
Give me an example of another family ride that SFDL does not have, cause there cant be many...Actually, my family, as a whole, does not like coasters in general. They may get on the occasional Carousel or Scrambler but thats it. Besides me and my older cousin (who is 30 and has a kid), no one else dares get on a coaster and thats basically what I come to the parks for.
mrceagle on 5/22/2003 1:27:58 AM said:
Two transportation rides quickly come to mind. a train ride around the park and a boat for teh lake. both this atraction or family apropriot. they are normay populare with thoe that dont normaly like rides. a drak ride is another good atraction. they are very populare and fun for all. if designed well a coaster could also be built atop it!
mrceagle on 5/22/2003 1:29:50 AM said:
Teh site you gave me on its time line said that Cascade falls was removed. maybe your right. but that water park is takign up much space. adn in northern NY I doubt they have much of a season for that water park.
MagnumMan on 5/22/2003 7:28:32 AM said:
They have rental boats on the lake(s) already, if thats what you are talking about. And about the train ride, the park isnt big enough to accomidate a train. You can get around very easily as it is. About the "waterpark", NYS actually does have a moderately hot summer. Its, of course, not very long but we do have one. BTW: According to the map, Cascade Canyon was removed. Maybe I need to tell the site that their information is wrong.
Red Rascal on 5/22/2003 3:53:32 PM said:
The water park isnt that big. Mrceagle visit the damn park before making flase comments about it!
mrceagle on 5/22/2003 7:33:51 PM said:
Youshoudl know that their is a big deferance between a large boat and paddle boats. another thing is a reall boat can safly be riden by younger children and those to old to use the paddle boats. if the park can excuse havign a tiney water park they can always build a slighly biger water park next to the park.
MagnumMan on 5/22/2003 9:09:17 PM said:
I dont think that is their main priority though, eagle. With the Summer season short ( even though it is hot), that is not the main concern. Plus, I dont think the general public seems to care either as I, and what seems to be other patrons, dont mind the "undeveloped" water park. BTW: When you say "large boats", what do you mean?
mrceagle on 5/23/2003 12:15:35 AM said:
somthign is a Paddle wheel boat. liek you see at Disney. they are populare for Older patrons. and teen slike it because its a "make out ride." somthign that can take a littel trip around the lake.
MagnumMan on 5/23/2003 2:00:44 PM said:
Its not THAT big to suit a riverboat. This isnt the Mississippi...or DisneyWorld.
mrceagle on 5/23/2003 6:00:01 PM said:
Lake Compounce has a mediun sized padle boat. its abotu half to 2/3 the size of the ones you se at disney. i was usign it as an example to explain what I wanted to see.
Red Rascal on 5/26/2003 8:19:24 PM said:
Why would the park get a huge paddle boat? It would be stupid if all it did was go around in a circle around the lake. Thats boring!
MagnumMan on 5/27/2003 4:05:19 PM said:
Actually, the lakes are could be connected. They are very close together and are almost "strategically" placed. But I dont thats going to happen.
Red Rascal on 5/27/2003 5:35:03 PM said:
I dont see this happening either. They would have to dig to connect them and build a bridge or something to connect the two sides. All this for a paddle boat ride? Its not worth it.
minderaser on 6/24/2003 5:42:19 PM said:
This is really stretching it but... I saw on the way home from Darien on the 22 of june 2 semis heading toward Darien. The frst truck I couldnt make out what was in it but it looked like some type of new ride piece (not track though)and the second semi had some giant gear that looked like something youd find on a coaster lift. I really dont know if the trucks went to Darien or not but I couldnt imagine where else they would go around there with eguipment that size.
Red Rascal on 6/24/2003 5:45:07 PM said:
Maybe its parts for the new tower at Marineland.
minderaser on 6/25/2003 5:06:11 PM said:
I doubt it. They were heading south about 1 mile north of Darien Lake. But then again it could have been because the parts had the same colors as the pic. on the Marineland site. But who really knows! ( Besides the truck drivers)(and the people who made the parts)(and the ones who ordered it)(and... you get the idea!)
Red Rascal on 6/25/2003 5:14:04 PM said:
What did the parts look like? Like an S&S tower?
minderaser on 6/27/2003 6:40:40 AM said:
I couldnt really give an accurate description I was pretty much past them when I noticed them. But the one I did notice was a giant 10 tall "spool" with gears on the ends. The other semi had something weird, kinda like a panel on a UFO!
Red Rascal on 6/27/2003 7:42:10 AM said:
Maybe, it wasnt even for a coaster or ride.
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