Scott
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 11/23/2004 12:06:25 AM
I recently visited possibly the most scarry park ever . I walked into SFNE and instantly started running to Superman. Once I got to Superman a park worker told us Superman would be closed until 4. I figured this would be a good time to go to Batman the Dark Knight. By the time I got in line for it the wait was almost 45 minutes. While waiting in line for this ride tons of rude people cut in front of me. I would have normally said something but these people were seriously mean. I asked a black lady to give me my spot back, she yelled at me and looked like she was about to punch me. I was going to get security but I didn't because I was completely surrounded by some mean looking people who were getting in the fight! And they were on the ladies side at that. I can see why this park is so rude it draws large crowds from NJ boston and New York (no offense to any of those people). In line 4 fights broke out and even the young kids were tough rude and scarry. Part of the reason may be i'm only 5-9, pretty short compared to most of the other people. I finally made it safely up to the station without someone punching me. Batman is great, it looks small but it's so intense. I loved the ending corckscrews on this intense ride. It was pretty short but I really can't imagine it much longer. After Batman I walked to thunderbolt which I found really fun. It's a little rough but the double dip in the middle thrills me. I wasn't expecting much because of the height but it was great. The line was only 15 minutes which was a nice break from larger lines. Walking off I ran into a gang of people wearing all red which I remembered as a gang called the blood (Similiar to the kkk). I had heard pretty good things about the Cyclone so I figured i'd go and ride that, but not before my delicious meal at Arbys overlooking the river. I walked over to the Cyclone and waited about half an hour. I was a little dissappointed after this ride because I had heard only good things about it. The first drop was really weird because the coaster was probably 100 feet tall but it only dropped 50. It just seemed weird because first drops are usually huge. The rest of the Cyclone is great! The lateral Gs are strong but not painfully strong. It was about 3:00 so I figured I would need start heading over to Superman soon. But before that I decided to ride Flashback for coaster credit. I'm not gonna write about flashback because it's a standard Vekoma Boomerang coaster. I then walked over to Superman where an angry group of people were shouting at a guest relations lady about wanting the ride open now. The poor lady reluctantly opened up the gate and hundreds of people started sprinting through the line. I was at the end of this group not running just taking my time. I was at a sign that said "wait time 30 minutes from here", but only one train was running so it was like an hour wait. Tons of people were shouting at the operator about how they needed to have 2 trains running. The other train was being tested with the water bottle things. People started saying offensive things to everyone around them. They really liked to yell at the operator. I won't repeat the comments said because they might be considered offensive to some. Some went like this, "run 2 trains you #@$*#$% operator!". Others went like this, "You son of a #$*&@!". A security gaurd eventually took them away. I finally got on to Superman a great Intamin coaster. I loved the airtime on this beauty. The ending twists were great and the foggy tunnels were blinding but really fun! I rode this twice in one night, both rides in the front seat and still got out of your seat airtime. Unfortunatly it missed my top ten by just a hair. I then ended my day at SFNE by riding Poison ivy's twisted train. It's a lot more fun then it looks. I enjoyed the relaxing twists turns and a 20 foot drop as my ending ride. I left SFNE after having a great time but if it ever had the ability to be a family park it lost<
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Hercules
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11/23/2004 12:16:42 AM
Man, between that and Great Adventure dude. That sucks. There are city people all over the place at both I guess. Pretty good review. Sorry about your bad experiences there. I hope you had fun though. I hope to get up there sometime to ride Superman. Glad you liked it. Hope to see some more of your trips on here.
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11/23/2004 12:19:40 AM
Good review, but one thing, you think it draws from Philly? That is a pretty long drive  Heck, I thought I-90 from Boston to SFNE was a far, far drive, yet alone Philly.
Sounds like a very unruly crowd, Ill watch out for that if I ever make it up there.
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Hercules
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11/23/2004 12:55:43 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't come from Philly, that is a journey and a half. They are more likely from NYC. Philly people tend to go to Dorney or Great Adventure. I don't think that they would drive that way because that is pretty far. There are some up-state New York crowds that can be pretty, well, not nice, too. I hate it when parks get like that. I don't understand why everyone can't just enjoy the park and the day and just let everyone have some fun in an orderly and respectful way.
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Scott
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11/23/2004 9:50:33 AM
When I was in line for Superman I met a couple from Philly. They said they had come with some big charity from down in Philly. I guess that would explain all the people from there. I updated it so that it doesn't include Philly. Sorry, I had only been there that one time so I really didn't know.
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larrygator
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11/23/2004 11:27:08 AM
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure they don't come from Philly, that is a journey and a half. They are more likely from NYC. Philly people tend to go to Dorney or Great Adventure. I don't think that they would drive that way because that is pretty far. There are some up-state New York crowds that can be pretty, well, not nice, too. I hate it when parks get like that. I don't understand why everyone can't just enjoy the park and the day and just let everyone have some fun in an orderly and respectful way. |
Not too many people from New York City go to SFNE
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Hercules
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11/23/2004 12:16:28 PM
I know, but, it is probably more likely that they would come from that area than from Philly.
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Scott
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11/23/2004 6:00:45 PM
I'm sorry, I explained about the philly people above and some new yorkers were there. I flew in through Newark NJ which was preety close to New York city. I drove to SFNE after 2 days (I visited family along the way). And I did change it so that it's not Philly.
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 11/29/2004 9:33:34 PM
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Wow lol, ive never seen anyhting like that out of all the times that I've been to SFNE. From what you are saying about it, it seems like you went on a VERY bad day. When did you go? It must of been a while ago sence the mist was on in Superman's tunnels.
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Scott
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11/29/2004 10:55:18 PM
A Saturday in june 2002 They turned off the mist?! I loved that. SROS does not stink! 
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skierman
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 11/30/2004 6:56:37 AM
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A Saturday in june 2002 They turned off the mist?! I loved that. SROS does not stink! |
HAH! Well, the four times i went, once in the spring, once in the summer, and twice in the fall(for frightfest), they had the mist off all four times. Its so refreshing after plummeting 228 ft. to the ground on a hot summer day, its a shame they didnt use it.
And also, have you ridden it sence they got the new restraints? If the last time you went was in 2002, then you havent, which means you dont know what im talking about. These new restraints literally PIN you to the seat. And the shin guards made my leg cramp up every time I went over an airtime hill. So instead of getitng airtime when going over the hills, you get pain....
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Scott
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11/30/2004 9:46:26 AM
Bummer
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larrygator
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11/30/2004 10:32:02 AM
I didn't find the new restaints as excruciating as Skierman. I still got air and was not in pain on every hill. Not as great as before still a strong coaster.
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skierman
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11/30/2004 11:56:36 AM
^But you didn't ride the one at SFNE. This coaster was so amazing, but then they got the new restraints, and it made it horrible.
The ones at SFA, and SFDL weren't as good as the one at SFNE to start with, so the restraints didnt take away from the ride as much.
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larrygator
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11/30/2004 12:12:28 PM
^Oh yes I did! I rode S:ROS at SFNE on 7/25/2004, I previously rode in early 2003. Yes it was better in 2003, but it is far from horrible now.
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Hercules
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11/30/2004 12:33:37 PM
A man flies off of the ride, gets his arm chopped off by a metal fence and dies, and you are complaining about the new restraints? I am a big fan of having good, clean, and most importantly safe fun. I'm sorry, but what if it happened to someone you know? I don't know how old you are skierman (if you are not younger than me then I will feel like a realy idiot), but, you are not invincible. There is a possibility that this sort of thing could happen to you. The new restraints are for your own safety and to make sure that this type of thing will never happen again. Just have fun on the ride and enjoy life.
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skierman
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 11/30/2004 2:33:36 PM
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A man flies off of the ride, gets his arm chopped off by a metal fence and dies, and you are complaining about the new restraints? I am a big fan of having good, clean, and most importantly safe fun. I'm sorry, but what if it happened to someone you know? I don't know how old you are skierman (if you are not younger than me then I will feel like a realy idiot), but, you are not invincible. There is a possibility that this sort of thing could happen to you. The new restraints are for your own safety and to make sure that this type of thing will never happen again. Just have fun on the ride and enjoy life. |
I just think that some of those restraints are unnescessary. First off theres a seatbelt that the ride OP's yank on to get it as tight as possible. Then you have the T-Bar restraint. The ride OP's then push down on that VERY HARD. With the T-Bar. Theres also these annoying metal bars that lock your legs into a place that are attatched to the T-Bar, and you cant really move them if you tried. Then to top it all off, theres a SECOND seatbelt. This one goes from the handle on the T-Bar to the side of the seat. It is basically like a re-assurance just in case the T-bar, and the first seatbelt dysfunction. Then once the ride OP's tighten all those down so tight the seatbelt digs into your stomach, and you think your gonna disbatch... They come around a SECOND time to push, and yank on your restraints, and seatbelts. Finally, you disbatch the station.
Now to me, that's way too unnescessary. I would be happy if they tore all of that out, and got new restraints, similar to MF's, but they wouldn't do that, it would be much to expensive.
BTW, im 13.
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Hercules
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11/30/2004 2:44:24 PM
Alright, well, I was correct on my assessment of your age then.
Anyway, that does seem a little excessive, but someone did die on it. It is a business thing. They need to take every precaustion on that bad boy now to make sure that nothing goes wrong again. I'm sure that they were ordered to do most of it and added a few more things just in case. Now, I have never been on this thing, hopefully I will be soon, but, anything in the name of safety is ok to me.
Sorry if that makes you mad or something.
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11/30/2004 2:56:59 PM
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Alright, well, I was correct on my assessment of your age then.
Anyway, that does seem a little excessive, but someone did die on it. It is a business thing. They need to take every precaustion on that bad boy now to make sure that nothing goes wrong again. I'm sure that they were ordered to do most of it and added a few more things just in case. Now, I have never been on this thing, hopefully I will be soon, but, anything in the name of safety is ok to me.
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Ergh... Well, im not mad, im just dissappointed. You see, i have ridden S:RoS before they got the new restraints. It was amazing, evreything was perfect, the airtime, it was amazing. Then, I rode it for the first time ever with the new restraints this year. I have been told that they dont take away from the ride, and i wouldnt notice them. So therefore i went onto the ride with a positive attitude. Once we went over the first drop, i already knew this airtime master had been distroyed. I didnt lift out of my seat like i used to, i stayed pinned, it was almost boring... And then the overbank was extremely uncomfortable. I used to like to push my feet out, so i felt more stable... its weird. So i tried to do that, but i was stopped by these shin restraints. They also cramped up my legs... It was horrible.
So overall, im just dissappointed that such an amazing ride has been killed.
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yfz450
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11/30/2004 5:21:30 PM
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Alright, well, I was correct on my assessment of your age then.
Anyway, that does seem a little excessive, but someone did die on it. It is a business thing. They need to take every precaustion on that bad boy now to make sure that nothing goes wrong again. I'm sure that they were ordered to do most of it and added a few more things just in case. Now, I have never been on this thing, hopefully I will be soon, but, anything in the name of safety is ok to me.
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How much did the guy weigh who fell out? Don't they have a certain weight your supposed to be under if you go on the ride. I remember that they did at CP.
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Hercules
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11/30/2004 5:43:03 PM
Yeah. He was a pretty big dude, plus he had something wrong with him. There were a couple of times that he wasn't allowed on because of his weight and his mental condition, but that time the ops decided to let him on and they didn't make sure that he was completely secure. The ops ignorance is another reason for such added safety measures. I'm sure that got double and triple trained to work the ride to make sure that everyone got what they are supposed to do.
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larrygator
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11/30/2004 11:19:48 PM
My understnading is that he was big around the waist but due to his physical ailment (which I believe was celebral palsy) his legs were not well developed. The T-bar restraint was over his belly when the ride started but with the airtime his belly rose over the t-bar restraint. Now with underdeveloped muscular sytem and thin thighes the t-bar restraint was not effective keeping him in the car.
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Hercules
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12/1/2004 11:19:31 AM
Yeah that is part of it. The T-bar was not fully secured throughout most, if not the entire ride because it was shown that at the picture point that the bar was in no way down at all. Blame the ride operators AND the restraints.
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12/3/2004 9:10:33 PM
I live 2 miles from SFNE and have seen situations very similar to what you described take place in the Batman line. While the park is a Six Flags location, it still carries some of the Riverside mentalities. One of them being that they overcrowd the park with busses on the weekends and still are having problems with the gangs and riff-raff coming in from the bad side of Springfield. When the troublemakers from the city mixes with the inter-city charters coming in from Boston or NYC, there is always problems. This coming season there will be undercover cops working to take down the gangs, even by raiding the lines and filling up paddy wagons, so things may improve.
As for crowds, avoid this park during midsummer weekends. It is alot better during Frightfest, when the gangs all move back into the nightclubs in Springfield leaving only pre-teens and families, or during the first two weeks of June on the weeknights, when the park is virtually empty. YOu can then actually enjoy the place.
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