DIMMU SAK
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12/2/2005 11:21:35 AM
I looked at the Top 1,200 or so rides list, obviously, its not a definitive list. The rides at the top don't have many reviews and some coasters such as Phoenix had much less votes than those of Millenium Force and Apollo's Chariot. That means a lot more people can give Millenium Force 9's which is a terrific score but if you have so many people reviewing it the score HAS to lower overall.
So I made a system.
Over 90 reviews for the coaster are ranked higher. Over 35 reviews for the ride made the list. Under 35 reviews don't make the list. I rated them by 0.5 intervals in score. Meaning
9.5-10 9-9.5 8.5-9 8-8.5 etc.
All coasters ranked 9.5 and higher and have over 90 votes go to the top of the list. If the score of the coaster is higher but it doesn't have over 90 votes, it ranks lower since theoretically, if more people reviewed the coaster, the score would change (and at scores above 9.5, it'd most likely lower). So, I rank 90+ over 9.5 and then 35+ over 9.5. Then I move to 9.0-9.5 rank the 90+ first then 35+. And so on.
I put the word DEFITIVE! to get attention but honestly, this is my PERSONAL opinion on the overall view of the rankings of people who reviewed coasters on this site. This is my system and I hope you respect it.
I've always been into statistics and list rankings. The way I read rankings is from bottom to top. So, I'd recommend you scroll down and start from 100 and go to #1.
Heres the list
1. Millenium Force - Cedar Point 2. Superman: Ride of Steel - Six Flags New England 3. Top Thrill Dragster - Cedar Point 4. Apollo's Chariot - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 5. Nitro - Six Flags Great Adventure 6. Montu - Busch Gardens Tampa Bay 7. Raging Bull - Six Flags Great America 8. The Beast - Paramount's Kings Island 9. Boulder Dash - Lake Compounce 10. Phoenix - Knoebels 11. Shivering Timbers - Michigan's Adventure 12. X - Six Flags Magic Mountain 13. Ghostrider - Knott's Berry Farm 14. Cyclone - Astroland 15. Superman Krypton Coaster - Six Flags Fiesta Texas 16. The Comet - The Great Escape 17. Xcelerator - Knott's Berry Farm 18. The Hulk - Islands of Adventure 19. Alpengeist - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 20. Medusa - Six Flags Great Adventure 21. Raptor - Cedar Point 22. Riddler's Revenge - Six Flags Magic Mountain 23. Lightning Racer - Hersheypark 24. Goliath - Six Flags Magic Mountain 25. Kumba - Busch Gardens Tampa Bay 26. Dueling Dragons - Islands of Adventure 27. Magnum XL 200 - Cedar Point 28. Wicked Twister - Cedar Point 29. California Screamin - California Adventure 30. Superman: Ultimate Flight - Six Flags Over Georgia 31. Talon - Dorney Park 32. Storm Runner - Hersheypark 33. The Mind Bender - Six Flags Over Georgia 34. Twister - Knoebels 35. Deja Vu - Six Flags Magic Mountain 36. Dominator - Geauga Lake 37. Phantom's Revenge - Kennywood 38. The Big Shot - Stratosphere Hotel Casino 39. Revenge of the Mummy - Universal Studios Florida 40. Volcano: The Blast Coaster - Paramount's Kings Dominion 41. Viper - Six Flags Great America 42. Steel Force - Dorney Park 43. Titan - Six Flags Over Texas 44. Thunderbolt - Kennywood 45. Wicked Twister - Cedar Point 46. V2: Vertical Reality - Six Flags Great America 47. The Raven - Holiday World 48. Rockin Roller Coaster - Disney-MGM Studios 49. Lochness Monster - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 50. Space Mountain - Disneyland 51. The Texas Giant - Six Flags Over Texas 52. Flight of Fear - Paramount's Kings Dominion 53. Grizzly - Paramount's Kings Dominion 54. Hypersonic XLC - Paramount's Kings Dominion 55. The Yankee Cannonball - Canobie Lake Park 56. Batman The Ride - Six Flags Over Georgia 57. Great American Scream Machine - Six Flags Over Georgia 58. Jack Rabbit - Kennywood 59. The Georgia Scorcher - Six Flags Over Georgia 60. Steel Venom - Geauga Lake 61. Scream! - Six Flags Magic Mountain 62. Batman and Robin: The Chiller - Six Flags Great Adventure 63. Gwazi - Busch<
Message updated 12/2/2005 11:45:08 AM by DIMMU SAK
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DIMMU SAK
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Rank: Coaster Critic
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12/2/2005 11:26:10 AM
Oh and this is a VERY close list. The scores were extremely close number by number. Meaning the rollercoaster ranked at #20 isn't by any means leaps and bounds higher of a score than the one ranked at #50. Being in the top 60 or so probably qualifies it as a terrific rollercoaster from the USA. I know I'd personally enjoy each and every single ride on the top 100.
This is a ROLLERCOASTER ranking by the way. Not a THRILL RIDE ranking.
That was probably the hardest part about the list, having to click many links to find out if the ride was a rollercoaster or not.
Message updated 12/2/2005 11:48:43 AM by DIMMU SAK
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DIMMU SAK
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12/2/2005 11:29:31 AM
Oh, and some of the newer rides such as Sheikra and Kingda Ka didn't have enough reviews for the coaster yet. Thats why they didn't make the list. Those would probably make the list next year.
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Hercules
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12/2/2005 1:17:30 PM
There will never be a definative list of rides, especially on this site.
This is the closest you will find
http://www.themeparkcritic.com/Forums/ViewTopic.asp?TopicID=142828&ForumKey=16
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DIMMU SAK
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12/2/2005 1:35:50 PM
ouch. that hurts.
No credit at all? I'm sorry you feel that way. I did say this is my personal statistical list though, not the factual list. I guess you hate me.
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Canobie Coaster
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12/2/2005 1:54:40 PM
I am glad that you took the time to make that list. It is a very accurate list. Nice job Dimmu Sak.
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Hercules
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12/2/2005 2:24:36 PM
No I didn't say that there little buddy. I'm glad that you took the time to do this. Good job. I'm sure it took a lot of time and hard work, but basing stuff off of this site isn't the most accurate thing in the world. Just look through all of the stuff and you will see a lot of crap reviews and rankings.
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Danny
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12/2/2005 3:27:28 PM
Cool list, but everyone knows that Hulk should be #1
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Hercules
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12/2/2005 3:40:32 PM
^ This is exactly my point about the whole thing Thank you for clearing everything up Danny.
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mrceagle
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12/3/2005 12:03:48 AM
The poll there is prity good and a good way to see how rides are ranked. but with that poll and this site ratings are bast an participation.
Thow this rewrite is a bit biases. like someone posted newer rides are geting no score or a verry low score aren't getign the ratings they deserve.
This is an interesting write up and I thank you for your time. Though I can't rate MF I personaly find Boulderdash(9) a better ride then Superman (2)
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DOOM1001
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Registered: 5/19/2003
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12/29/2005 8:29:03 PM
List looks preety good in my opinion.Looked up and down the list and the only weird thing I saw was the Big Shot in Vegas which is a space shot ride at #38, maybe it meant to say the High Roller( the coaster) which is being taken out to make room for a new ride.This ranking is pretty high for that ride, I guess it's due to the amount of people who visit Vegas and it's popularity.In my opinion it should barely make the top 100.
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DOOM1001
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12/30/2005 12:06:17 AM
The list is good but I just realized you don't have Kraken on the list which I just don't get, I think it should be ranked in the 30's at least.
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DIMMU SAK
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1/2/2006 8:13:17 PM
Oh yeah.
I've updated my list and just made two minor corrections. Kraken indeed is ranked extremely high. #6 in fact. I also took Big Shot off. If I'm working with that many coaster names, I might make a mistake or 2. So, heres the new minorly adjusted list. Oh, and Wicked Twister was listed on there twice so I took it off.
Top 100 Rollercoasters of America. 1. Millenium Force - Cedar Point 2. Superman: Ride of Steel - Six Flags New England 3. Top Thrill Dragster - Cedar Point 4. Apollo's Chariot - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 5. Nitro - Six Flags Great Adventure 6. Kraken - Sea World Florida 7. Montu - Busch Gardens Tampa Bay 8. Raging Bull - Six Flags Great America 9. The Beast - Paramount's Kings Island 10. Boulder Dash - Lake Compounce 11. Phoenix - Knoebels 12. Shivering Timbers - Michigan's Adventure 13. X - Six Flags Magic Mountain 14. Ghostrider - Knott's Berry Farm 15. Cyclone - Astroland 16. Superman Krypton Coaster - Six Flags Fiesta Texas 17. The Comet - The Great Escape 18. Xcelerator - Knott's Berry Farm 19. The Hulk - Islands of Adventure 20. Alpengeist - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 21. Medusa - Six Flags Great Adventure 22. Raptor - Cedar Point 23. Riddler's Revenge - Six Flags Magic Mountain 24. Lightning Racer - Hersheypark 25. Goliath - Six Flags Magic Mountain 26. Kumba - Busch Gardens Tampa Bay 27. Dueling Dragons - Islands of Adventure 28. Magnum XL 200 - Cedar Point 29. Wicked Twister - Cedar Point 30. California Screamin - California Adventure 31. Superman: Ultimate Flight - Six Flags Over Georgia 32. Talon - Dorney Park 33. Storm Runner - Hersheypark 34. The Mind Bender - Six Flags Over Georgia 35. Twister - Knoebels 36. Deja Vu - Six Flags Magic Mountain 37. Dominator - Geauga Lake 38. Phantom's Revenge - Kennywood 39. Revenge of the Mummy - Universal Studios Florida 40. Volcano: The Blast Coaster - Paramount's Kings Dominion 41. Viper - Six Flags Great America 42. Steel Force - Dorney Park 43. Titan - Six Flags Over Texas 44. Thunderbolt - Kennywood 45. V2: Vertical Reality - Six Flags Great America 46. The Raven - Holiday World 47. Rockin Roller Coaster - Disney-MGM Studios 48. Lochness Monster - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 49. Space Mountain - Disneyland 50. The Texas Giant - Six Flags Over Texas 51. Flight of Fear - Paramount's Kings Dominion 52. Grizzly - Paramount's Kings Dominion 53. Hypersonic XLC - Paramount's Kings Dominion 54. The Yankee Cannonball - Canobie Lake Park 55. Batman The Ride - Six Flags Over Georgia 56. Great American Scream Machine - Six Flags Over Georgia 57. Jack Rabbit - Kennywood 58. The Georgia Scorcher - Six Flags Over Georgia 59. Steel Venom - Geauga Lake 60. Scream! - Six Flags Magic Mountain 61. Batman and Robin: The Chiller - Six Flags Great Adventure 62. Gwazi - Busch Gardens Tampa 63. Great Bear - Hersheypark 64. Georgia Cyclone - Six Flags Over Georgia 65. Big Bad Wolf - Busch Gardens Williamsburg 66. Gemini - Cedar Point 67. Space Mountain - Magic Kingdom 68. Mantis - Cedar Point 69. Flight of Fear - Paramount's Kings Island 70. Batman The Ride - Six Flags Great America 71. The Exterminator - Kennywood 72. Big Dipper - Geauga Lake 73. Montezuma's Revenge - Knott's Berry Farm 74. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad - Disneyland 75. The Racer - Kennywood 76. Superman: Ultimate Flight - Six Flags Great America 77. Wildcat - Hersheypark 78. X-Flight - Geauga Lake 79. Face/Off - Paramount's Kings Island 80. The Villain - Geauga Lake 81. Batman: The Dark Knight - Six Flags New England 82. Blue Streak - Cedar Point 83. Big Thunder Mountain - Magic Kingdom 84. Comet - Hersheypark 85. Rebel Yell - Paramount's Kings Dominion 86. The American Eagle - Six Flags Great America 87. Anaconda - Paramount's Kings Dominion 88. Viper - Six Flags Magic Mountain 89. The Racer - Paramount's Kings Island 90. Cyclone - Six Flags New England 91. Superman: Ultimate Flight - Six Flags Great Adventu
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Canobie Coaster
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1/3/2006 6:12:42 AM
You are doing a great job and I love how you're updating the list. How long does it take to update?
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DIMMU SAK
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1/3/2006 12:32:08 PM
To update? well, you just press enter a hundred times or so after you take off or put on a coaster. So, just a few minutes.
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larrygator
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1/3/2006 12:51:29 PM
A unique way to look at things.
Just curious, through this method, what was the highest ranking coaster with under 90 reviews?
Mark's system is a good one with the Olympic type scoring (throwing out the lowest and higest rankings. A better method (but much more complex) method would be to build an algorithim to throw out more of the highest and lowest scores as the total number of reviews for a ride increases.
But then again nothing will ever be perfect or definitive.
-------------------- Mom always said, "Don't play ball in the house".
Message updated 1/3/2006 12:56:13 PM by larrygator
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DIMMU SAK
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1/3/2006 6:04:18 PM
If you just count 35 and over, the top 10 would go like this.
1. Boulder Dash 2. Phoenix 3. Millenium Force 4. Shivering Timbers 5. Superman: Ride of Steel 6. Top Thrill Dragster 7. Apollo's Chariot 8. X 9. Ghostrider 10. Cyclone
Thats over 35. If absolutely any number of reviews, then the list would be very different.
Boulder Dash had a score of 9.93. Millenium Force had a score of 9.82. THATS HIGH SCORES. Boulder Dash had 62 reviews. Millenium Force had 263 reviews. Thats quadruple what Boulder Dash had. With such a minor difference in the score and such a major difference in how many people gave a score, Millenium Force definitely deserves a higher spot (MF also has over double the reviews of any coaster in the top 20 except The Hulk). Like if another 200 people decided to review Boulder Dash, unless nearly every single person gives it a 10, the score would lower.
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BobFunland
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1/5/2006 2:27:36 AM
Quote: larrygator said: Mark's system is a good one with the Olympic type scoring (throwing out the lowest and higest rankings. A better method (but much more complex) method would be to build an algorithim to throw out more of the highest and lowest scores as the total number of reviews for a ride increases. |
Mark's system does throw out a certain percentage, I believe, and not just X amount.
I've actually been working on a complex algorithm for my site to determine the top rides and I think it may be even "better" in the end.
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mrceagle
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1/5/2006 8:32:18 PM
Intresting update. Still think Boulderdash is hind3ered by soem of your bonuses like Hight and Speed. It's a far better coaster then Superman. I can't say anythign for MF since I havn't riden it yet.
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DIMMU SAK
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1/5/2006 10:47:18 PM
Just remember yall.
This is far from MY personal opinion. Just my little system of putting together reviews people who reviewed on this site gave. Includes you guys.
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Canobie Coaster
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1/6/2006 6:11:51 AM
Thanks for telling us that. I enjoy how you give rides with more reviews a higher ranking. Keep it up!
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Scott
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1/12/2006 7:16:34 PM
bump
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coasterwom
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4/21/2006 12:16:58 PM
You should break up the list by wood, steel, inverted, induction, stand up,ect. It's to hard to pick coasters based on reviews because not everyone reviews coasters honestly.
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CCTrack
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4/21/2006 1:13:36 PM
I agree with Millennium Force at 1 but why is TTD @ #3, its too short, it definetely shouldnt even be in the top 10.
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thinkdif
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4/21/2006 4:14:29 PM
great list, i agree with CCTrack, TTD is good but Kingda Ka should be higher up than TTD. Ka is basically a slightly bigger TTD. But overall one of the best lists I've seen.
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